Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 19 December 2019 [Archived]

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Teleconference

Attendees:

  • Tina Morris, Chair (TM)
  • Leif Sawyer, Vice Chair (LS)
  • Owen DeLong (OD)
  • Andrew Dul (AD)
  • David Farmer (DF)
  • Kat Hunter (KH)
  • Alyssa Moore (AM)
  • Amy Potter (AP)
  • Joe Provo (JP)
  • Kerrie Richards (KR)
  • Rob Seastrom (RS)
  • Chris Tacit (CT)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)

Scribe:

  • Therese Simcox

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela (MA), Associate General Counsel
  • John Curran, President & CEO
  • Sean Hopkins (SH), Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson (RJ), COO
  • John Sweeting (JS), Chief Customer Officer (CCO)

ARIN General Counsel

  • Stephen M. Ryan, Esq.

ARIN Board Observers

  • Paul Andersen, Chair
  • Anita Nikolich, 2020 Appointed AC Member (AN)

1. Welcome

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:04 p.m. EST. The presence of a quorum was noted. The Chair welcomed everyone to the last teleconference meeting of 2019. The Chair noted that observer/2020 appointed AC Member, Anita Nikolich, was yet not on the call but she did expect her, and that Anita did accept the seat on the Council.

2. Agenda Review

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council, and called for comments. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes

It was moved by OD, and seconded by CW, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 01 November 2019, as written.”

The motion carried with no objections.

It was moved by AM, and seconded by OD, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council advances ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-6: Clarify Reassignment Requirements in 4.2.3.7.1’ to Last Call.”

The Chair called for discussion. AM stated that there was support in the community and that no further comments were noted on the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML), therefore this policy was ready to move forward.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

KH stated that she, AP, and CW worked together to take the recommendations received from the members at ARIN 44 and from the AC’s meeting following ARIN 44. They revised the language in the policy, and the revised text has been resubmitted to the PPML. She stated that their intention is to let the text remain a bit longer on the PPML to allow the community more time to provide feedback.

AT stated that this policy has been in last call, and that there have been no further changes. The Chair asked AT if any concerns have been raised by the community. AT replied that there were no concerns raised.

OD stated that he believed that there has been no opposition to this policy, and that it has been in last call for some time now. He believed it was time to move the policy forward.

It was moved by OD, and seconded by AD, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2019-3: Update 4.10 – IPv6 Deployment Block’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”

Observer, AN, joined the teleconference at this time (4:13 pm EST). The Chair welcomed her to the teleconference and stated that AN was welcome contribute any thoughts during the meeting. AN thanked the Chair.

The Chair called for discussion on the motion made. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

OD stated that this policy went through the last call period. He noted that since November 01, there have been no further comments for support or opposition on the PPML. OD believed it was time to move the policy forward.

It was moved by OD, and seconded by AD, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2019-8: Clarification of Section 4.10 for Multiple Discrete Networks’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

KR stated that she and RS are working through language revisions, and want to reach out to some others to discuss it the revisions. There is no further action at this time. The Chair replied to please reach out for any assistance.

CT stated that the community has shown support for this policy which been in last call since November with no further feedback but for one comment of support from the author. He believed that it was ready to be moved forward.

It was moved by CT, and seconded by OD, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2019-15: Hijacking Authorization Not-Intended.’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

It was noted that Counsel, Steve Ryan, had joined the teleconference a few minutes earlier.

JP stated that there has been no further feedback received on the PPML since after the ARIN 44 Public Policy Meeting (PPM). He is engaging with the community for any further revisions. JP stated that he intends to re-post the text to the PPML, and then request a staff and legal review within the next month.

11. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-18: LIR/ISP Re-Assignment to Non-Connected Networks

RS stated that work on this policy has not progressed due to the overwhelming lack of support for the policy after the ARIN 44 PPM. He pointed out that the vote was 5 to 1 against it, with the only one in favor being Scott Leibrand who spoke to steering the policy in a different direction.

RS further stated that he and AM have ideas about where this idea would go around an idea of creative financing, but the idea is different from this proposal, and they did not believe that modifying it was the right way to proceed. RS believed a new proposal would be in order, and that abandoning this policy would be the appropriate action.

It was moved by RS, and seconded by CW, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council abandons “Draft Policy ARIN-2019-18: LIR/ISP Re-Assignment to Non-Connected Networks.”

The Chair called for discussion. AD asked RS if he would outline the direction of what a new policy would encompass. RS replied that the concern is around the creation of IP address ‘landlords’. He has seen, in other companies he has worked with, leasing agreements where the addresses are owned and titled to the organization who received them from the RIR in the usual way, and the financing organization is covering the cost of them. This preserves contact between the user of addresses and the RIR. In his opinion, the catch that causes issues is making the address block serve as collateral, i.e., if one does not pay on thier lease, the rights to the address block are repossessed. RS stated that he was not certain that this would be supported by the community, as it results in an indirect hole in demonstrated need. He stated, however, that it is the direction in which he would like to see it progress. AD thanked him for the explanation.

Discussion ensued on the potential concerns of such a policy. The President confirmed that financial institutions holding rights to address blocks absent of operational need would be contrary to past policy direction of the community; and, this potential would need to be clearly spelt out in the policy. OD pointed out that the discussion is about a possible, and possibly, non-existent policy, while there was still a motion on the table to abandon the current policy.

The Chair acknowledged OD’s comment. She added that she had done some research of her own on the idea, and was happy to discuss it further with RS.

The Chair called for a vote on the motion.

The motion to abandon carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

RS stated he would draft the reason for abandonment to post to the PPML.

12. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-19: Require IPv6 Before Receiving Section 8 IPv4 Transfers

AD stated that this policy has generated quite a bit of discussion on the PPML with no consensus seen at this point as the community appears to be split. AD stated that he intends to continue the conversation on the PPML, and perhaps at the ARIN 45 PPM next April, to see if comments could be received so that better text could be crafted. He was uncertain if this would happen, but believed it the best way forward. He stated he would foster more discussion on the PPML after the new year.

13. ARIN-Prop-279: Harmonization of Maximum Allocation Requirements under Sections 4.1.8 (ARIN Waitlist) and 4.2.2 (Initial Allocation to ISPs)

CW stated that he was ready to move this to draft policy status. He stated that the proposal has a clear problem statement, and is within scope.

It was moved by CW, and seconded by KH, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-279: Harmonization of Maximum Allocation Requirements under Sections 4.1.8 (ARIN Waitlist) and 4.2.2 (Initial Allocation to ISPs)’ as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for discussion. CW noted that this proposal appears to be a technical correction to an occurring discrepancy between policies, and is a sound proposal.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

14. ARIN-Prop-281: Reserved Pool Replenishment

OD stated that this proposal has a clear problem statement and is within scope. He stated that he would make a motion to move it to draft policy status.

It was moved by OD, and seconded by CW, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-281: Reserved Pool Replenishment’ as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for any comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

15. Any Other Business

  • Travel to ARIN AC F2F Miami, FL (January 24). The Chair reminded the AC to arrange their travel for the meeting.
  • Biographies for the ARIN website. The Chair asked the AC to please send any updates to their biographies to staff.
  • Farewell to AC Member, David Farmer. The Chair thanked DF for his 11 years of service.

It was moved by OD, and seconded by CT, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council bids farewell to David Farmer. We sincerely thank him with gratitude for 11 years of dedication and contributions to the AC, and the Policy Development Process. We wish him all the best in his endeavors, and know that he will be missed.”

The motion carried by acclamation.

The Chair asked if DF had any parting words. DF stated that he would close with one of his favorite quotes: “Thanks for all the fish.”

The Chair and AC wished DF all the best.

The Chair thanked AN for joining to observe the AC’s teleconference.

16. Adjournment

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:44 p.m. EST. OD moved to adjourn, seconded by LS. The meeting adjourned with no objections.

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