Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 16 May 2019 [Archived]
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Teleconference
Attendees:
- Tina Morris, Chair (TM)
- Leif Sawyer, Vice Chair (LS)
- Owen DeLong (OD)
- Andrew Dul (AD)
- David Farmer (DF)
- Kat Hunter (KH)
- Alyssa Moore (AM)
- Amy Potter (AP)
- Joe Provo (JP)
- Kerrie Richards (KR)
- Chris Tacit (CT)
- Alicia Trotman (AT)
- Alison Wood (AW)
- Chris Woodfield (CW)
Scribe:
- Sean Hopkins
ARIN Staff:
- Michael Abejuela, Associate General Counsel
- John Curran, President & CEO
- Sean Hopkins (SH), Policy Analyst
- Richard Jimmerson (RJ), COO
- John Sweeting, (JS) Sr. Director, Registration Services
ARIN General Counsel
- Stephen Ryan, Esq.
ARIN Board
- Dan Alexander (DA), Trustee
- Paul Andersen (PA), Chair
Regrets
- Rob Seastrom
1. Welcome
The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:02 p.m. EDT, and welcomed everyone to the call.
2. Agenda Review
The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council and called for any comments. The Chair stated that bullet point “Looking for NomCom Volunteers” under Any Other Business, would be moved to after item 3. AD asked to move bullet point “Status of AC Recommendation to the Board on Waitlist Policy Suspension”, to before item 4. The Chair agreed.
3. Approval of the Minutes
It was moved by OD, and seconded by CT, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the Minutes of 10 April 2019, as written.”
The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.
The motion carried with no objections.
4. Status of AC Recommendation to the Board on Waitlist Policy Suspension
The Chair noted that the community consultation ended 03 May 2019. The AC’s recommendation is now awaiting Board review and guidance. The Chair stated that the AC should update the the recommendation, per the staff and legal review, and post it to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML). She pointed out that if it is updated and posted early next week, there will be a 14-day review period and another vote needed by the AC to move it forward.
It was moved by DF, and seconded by OD, that:
“The Advisory Council advances the Recommendation to the Board on Waitlist Policy Suspension to a second community consultation, incorporating edits as noted in the staff and legal review.”
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
The Chair stated that the AC should be moving other policies along, regardless of how the Recommendation proceeds.
5. Looking for NomCom Volunteers
The Chair stated that AC members are encouraged to volunteer. She noted that the the deadline for doing so was today at 5:00 p.m. EDT; and, she urged the Council members that if they wanted to volunteer to please do so immediately. OD stated that he did not believe he could volunteer because he was up for re-election to the Council. The Chair confirmed that was correct.
6. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
It was moved by CT, and seconded by OD, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”
The Chair called for discussion.CT stated that the last call period had ended, and that the policy had continued support. The Chair asked if there were any further comments from the PPML. CT stated that there were minor clarifications discussed, but nothing substantive. He stated that he and DF concurred with the assessment. DF stated that there was one objection without explanation on the PPML, and believed the policy was ready to move forward.
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
7. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-2: Clarification to ISP Initial Allocation
It was moved by DF, and seconded by OD, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-2: Clarification to ISP Initial Allocation’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”
The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
8. Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-5: Disallow Third-Party Organization Record Creation
AD stated that the policy was presented at ARIN 43, went through a last call period.
It was moved by AD, and seconded by DF, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-5: Disallow Third-Party Organization Record Creation’, recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”
The Chair called for discussion. There were no further comments.
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
9. Draft Policy ARIN-2018-6: Clarify Reassignment Requirements in 4.2.3.7.1
AM stated that the policy text was recently updated on the AC’s Wiki. She stated that she would try to foster more discussion on the PPML, and likely make a motion to move this policy to recommended draft status in June, on the AC’s next teleconference.
10. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-1: Clarify Section 4 IPv4 Request Requirements
KH that feedback from ARIN 43 was considered – the timeframe was changed to 36 months. There was support on the PPML, and the staff and legal review was clean.
It was moved by KH, and seconded by DF, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council moves ‘Draft Policy ARIN-2019-1: Clarify Section 4 IPv4 Request Requirements’ to Recommended Draft Policy status.”
The Chair called for discussion. AD asked how this change to 4.1.8 would integrate with the AC’s recommendation to waitlist policy suspension. KH responded that the edit changes the very bottom of 4.1.8. The impact to the recommendation is minimal, and the community was hard set on a 36-month waiting period.
AD believed that the AC should wait for the recommendation to the Board to process before moving on this draft policy.
CW stated that he believed that this action can be considered independent of the recommendation to the Board. He would be happy for the Board to supersede it; however, the AC does not know that the Board will do so. Therefore, he believed there was no need to halt this action.
OD stated that he would prefer time to digest the staff and legal review. There was no rush to move this draft policy to recommended draft policy status, as long as it can move forward by ARIN 44 in October.
The Chair stated that the AC needs to operate independently from the recommendation to the Board. She acknowledged that OD was correct in stating that this policy needs to be presented at ARIN 44.
KH withdrew the motion.
11. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-2: Waiting List Block Size Restriction
AW stated that there was some activity on the PPML and some concern about a /22. The general consensus still agrees on the text with some saying /21 or /20. The staff and legal review stated that there were some issues with the language. AW stated she did not want to make a motion at this time, as she wanted to revise the text for the AC’s next meeting.
12. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-3: Update 4.10 – IPv6 Deployment Block
AT stated that during ARIN 43, this policy received robust discussion. There was consensus to keep the language written as-is. She noted that there was not much discussion on the PPML. AT stated she would prefer to keep the text under discussion.
13. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-4: Allow Inter-Regional IPv6 Resource Transfers
DF stated that there was not much discussion for this proposal. He is waiting for other proposals to come up that may be better vehicles for achieving IPv6 inter-RIR transfers. He stated that after some time, he may re-post this to the PPML.
14. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-5: Validation of Abuse-Mailbox
OD stated there was no update as he is still working on updating the language, and hoped to have text for the AC’s next meeting.
15. Draft Policy ARIN-2019-6: Longer Hold Time Requirements for 4.1.8 Recipients.
JP stated there has been no significant change. The overall interest for 4.1.8 is high. No additional action beyond stimulating discussion on the PPML, once other discussions have died down.
16. ARIN-2019-7: Elimination of the Waiting List
AM stated that the staff and legal review essentially says this policy is possible, but there is little way to estimate the amount of work involved and the legal comments stated that adoption of this policy would allow the party in a contested revocation situation to argue that ARIN seeks to financially benefit. Avoiding that concern is significant. AM stated that the transcripts from the court case noted on the PPML also carry similar concerns from Counsel.
The Chair agreed, stating that the fraud case brings a new light to the matter.
DF suggested pointing the PPML to the staff and legal review. AM agreed to do so.
The Chair agreed, stating there was no rush to move this policy forward.
17. ARIN-Edit-2019-1: Remove IPv4 Reference in NRPM Section 6.10.1
It was moved by AM, and seconded by CT, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘ARIN-Edit-2019-1: Remove IPv4 Reference in NRPM Section 6.10.1’, recommends the ARIN Board of Trustees approve it as an editorial change.”
The Chair called for discussion. AM noted that one small, editorial change was made to the language.
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
18. ARIN-Prop-268: Clarification of Section 4.10 for Multiple Discrete Networks
It was moved by OD, and seconded by CW, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-268: Clarification of Section 4.10 for Multiple Discrete Networks’, as a Draft Policy.”
The Chair called for discussion. OD noted that it was nice to see clear, concise language in a proposal.
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
19. ARIN-Prop-269: Clarify Interactions between NRPM 4.5 IPv6 Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests
It was moved by KH, and seconded by AD, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-269: Clarify Interactions between NRPM 4.5 IPv6 Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests’, as a Draft Policy.”
The Chair called for discussion. KH stated that slight revisions had been made.
The motion carried with 13 in favor, and one abstention (KR), via roll call vote.
20. ARIN-Prop-270: Inter-RIR M&A
It was moved by CW, and seconded by AT, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-270: Inter-RIR M&A’, as a Draft Policy.”
The Chair called for discussion. CW stated that the policy shepherd review was completed and that the proposal is clearly written, and in scope,
The motion carried unanimous, via roll call vote.
21. ARIN-Prop-271: M&A Regional Nexus Exclusion
It was moved by JP, and seconded by CW, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-271: M&A Regional Nexus Exclusion’, as a Draft Policy.”
The Chair called for discussion. JP stated that it is a very clearly written, and concise, proposal.
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
22. ARIN-Prop-272: M&A Legal Jurisdiction Exclusion
It was moved by JP, and seconded by AM, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-272: M&A Legal Jurisdiction Exclusion’, as a Draft Policy.”
The Chair called for discussion. JP stated that the proposal is clearly written, concise, and in scope. He noted that it may impact other policy work
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
23. ARIN-Prop-273: ARIN Membership Legal Jurisdiction Exclusion
It was moved by AP, and seconded by AW, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-273: ARIN Membership Legal Jurisdiction Exclusion’, as a Draft Policy.”
The Chair called for discussion. AP stated that the proposal is clearly written and in scope.
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
24. ARIN-Prop-274: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.1 Blocks
It was moved by AD, and seconded by OD, that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-Prop-274: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.1 Blocks’, as a Draft Policy.”
The Chair called for discussion. AD noted that this proposal is another addition to waitlist policy.
The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.
25. ARIN-Prop-275: Hijacking Authorization Not-Intended
CT stated that the author is working with the policy shepherds to clarify the language - no changes at this time.
26. Any Other Business
The Chair called for any other business.
Status Update of ARIN-Prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation
The Chair stated that the petition was successful, and that the text will be reviewed by the Board on 20 June 2019. The text will include the revision that was recently submitted. The President confirmed that the Board will be reviewing the text.
Status of AC Recommendation to the Board on Waitlist Policy Suspension
Previously disucussed.
Looking for NomCom Volunteers
Previously discussed.
60-Day Outstanding Expense Report Submission Summary
The Chair reminded the Council to submit their expense reports in a timely manner. She noted that currently David Farmer was the only Council member with delinquent submissions.
David Farmer announced that he is not going to claim any expenses.
Combining ARIN Proposals
It was moved by Owen DeLong that:
“The ARIN Advisory Council combines ARIN Prop- 271, 272, and 273 into one draft policy.”
The Chair called for discussion, noting there was no second to the motion. JP asked OD why he did not include ARIN-Prop-270. OD replied that proposal 270 is more substantial, and could be too much at once. However, OD did not believe it useful to leave proposals 271, 272 and 273 separate.
Given that there was no second for the motion, the motion failed.
27. Adjournment
The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 5:11.p.m. EDT. OD moved to adjourn, seconded by CW. The meeting adjourned with no objections.
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