ARIN XXIII Public Policy Meeting Day 2 Notes - 28 April 2009 [Archived]

Call to Order and Announcements

Speaker: John Curran, Acting ARIN President and CEO

Transcript

John Curran opened the second day of the ARIN Public Policy Meeting by presenting the agenda and thanking network connectivity sponsor Time Warner Cable Business Class. He conducted the drawing for the winner of the Monday Daily survey, which was won by Rui Wang.

John reviewed of the rules of discussion to be followed throughout the meeting.

At the beginning of the meeting, approximately 123 people were in attendance.

[ARIN offered the opportunity for remote participation throughout the meeting. Comments from remote participants were read aloud at the meeting and are integrated into the meeting report. There were 43 registered remote participants.]

IPv4 Depletion, Adopting IPv6, and Authorizing IPv4 Requests

Speaker: John Curran, Acting ARIN President and CEO

Presentation: PDF

Transcript

John Curran gave a presentation on the CEO letter campaign and pending officer attestation requirement for IPv4 requests. Highlights included:

IPv4 Depletion/IPv6 Adoption information letters set to the CEO or comparable officer of 8100 organizations with IPv4 address assignments/allocations and ARIN RSA or Legacy RSA and to 9400 Legacy organizations with IPv4 assignments/allocations

• An overview of the content of these letters and the URL to the full text https://www.arin.net/knowledge/about_resources/ceo_letter.pdf
• An explanation of the officer attestation process that will go into effect 18 May 2009, including the definition of organizational officer and the URL for the guidelines for the process: https://www.arin.net/resources/agreements/officer_attest.html

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

RIR Update - RIPE NCC

Speaker: Axel Pawlik

Presentation: PDF

Transcript

Axel Pawlik provided a presentation about recent activities and developments within RIPE NCC and its region.
Highlights included:

• Report on RIPE 57, held in Dubai, which had 320 attendees from 50 countries, and results of the General Meeting held in October
• RIPE Board elections to be held at RIPE 58, there are seven candidates for two open seats.
• The Board has been engaged in strategic planning, and identified areas requiring further attention: Outreach, Reporting, and Number Resource Lifecycle Management
• Planning to deploy a certification process in 2009, a limited test-run was held after RIPE 57
• Continuing PR and Outreach campaigns on IPv6 Uptake and 4-byte ASNs as well as developing branding for Information Services
• Cooperation Task Force is continuing to strengthen communication with government groups, work with the OECD, and educate law enforcement agents
• Upcoming meetings: RIPE 58, Amsterdam, 4-8 May, 2008; RIPE 59, Lisbon, 5-9 October, 2009

NRO Activities Report

Speaker: Axel Pawlik, Secretary of the NRO Executive Council

Presentation: PDF

Transcript

Axel Pawlik offered a brief update on activities within the NRO, highlighting participation in the Internet governance forums.
Highlights included:

• Announcement of the officers for 2009
• Overview of NRO expenses distribution
• Upcoming ICANN meeting Sydney, 21-26 June 2009
• Report on March 2009 ICANN meeting in Mexico City
• IGF update, including participation at the meeting in Hyderabad, India, and the upcoming meeting in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt
• Planned activities for 2009

2009-3 (Global): Allocation of IPv4 Blocks to Regional Internet Registries

Speaker: Scott Leibrand, ARIN Advisory Council

Intro: PDF

Presentation: PDF
Transcript

John Curran presented an introduction to the proposal. Highlights included:

• Advisory Council shepherds: Scott Leibrand and Marla Azinger
• Introduced on PPML as a draft policy on 23 March 2009. It was previously discussed at the Caribbean Sector meeting in Bridgetown, Barbados.
• Presentation of Staff Impact Analysis, Legal Review, Staff Comments, and overview of PPML discussion activity. [see presentation and transcript links above for details]

Scott Leibrand, as one of the shepherds, continued with the presentation of the proposal. Scott presented the text of the proposal and then the rationale.

Discussion highlights included:

• The global nature of the policy and the implications of making modifications to the text
• Concerns about returning resources to IANA for reissue rather than reissuing them inside the region
• Whether there is preference for a needs based or an asset allocation approach to distributing returned IPv4 address blocks

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion, Paul Vixie took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room, and requested that remote participants submit their votes on several questions related to this draft policy. After the tally was conducted, Paul stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

ARIN Board Resolution re: 2009-1

Speakers: John Curran, Acting ARIN President and CEO

Presentation:PDF

Transcript

John Curran gave a brief review or the Board Emergency PDP action as it is written in the ARIN Policy Development Process. He went on to explain that the Board had met to discuss input received on 2009-1: Transfer Policy, and that the Board would not unilaterally implement the policy. He emphasized that the future of 2009-1 would be determined by the Advisory Council, and if it is abandoned, he explained the timeframe for the implementation of 2008-6: Emergency Transfer Policy for IPv4 Addresses.

2009-2: Depleted IPv4 Reserves

Speaker: Scott Leibrand

Intro: PDF

Presentation: PDF
Transcript

John Curran presented an introduction to the proposal. Highlights included:

• Advisory Council shepherds: Scott Leibrand and Paul Andersen
• Introduced on PPML on 2 December 2008 and designated as a draft policy 23 March 2009. It was previously discussed at the Caribbean Sector Meeting in Bridgetown, Barbados.
• A similar policy has been adopted in the APNIC and LACNIC regions
• Presentation of Staff Impact Analysis, Legal Review, Staff Comments, and overview of PPML discussion activity. [see presentation and transcript links above for details]

Scott Leibrand, as one of the shepherds, continued with the presentation of the proposal. Scott presented the text of the proposal and then the rationale.

Discussion highlights included:

• Questions about the size of the reserve
• Concerns that this policy skews things in favor of small ISPs and punishes larger entities
• Concerns that this policy will make the IPv4 run out timeframe less predictable and make it harder for companies to make plans

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion, Paul Vixie took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room, and requested that remote participants submit their votes on several questions related to this draft policy. After the tally was conducted, Paul stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

ARIN Government Working Group Update

Speaker: Bobby Flaim

Presentation: PDF

Transcript

Bobby Flaim provided a presentation about the recently formed ARIN Government Working Group and its mission, activities to date, and future plans.
Highlights included:

• RIPE formed the first group of this type and the model is being adopted by the other RIRs
• The focus is to provide education in order to foster cooperation between the public and private sector while adhering to ARIN policies and procedures
• Meetings to date: 4 February, Washington D.C.; 11 February, Bridgetown, Barbados; 26 April, San Antonio, Texas
• Plans to continue to expand participation by invitation and adopt a charter
• Emphasized that this is not a policy development body

At the conclusion of the presentation, questions were taken from the floor. Highlights included:

• If participation would expand to include state and local government agencies
• How or if the group would participate in the policy development process

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

RIR Update - APNIC

Speaker: George Kuo, APNIC CEO

Presentation: PDF

Transcript

George Kuo presented a report on the activities of the APNIC community and staff.

Highlights included:

• APNIC 27 policy outcomes
• Results of APNIC Member and Stakeholder survey
• IPv6 program plans and activities
• Research and Development updates
• Preview of new APNIC website
• Meeting information for APNIC 28, Beijing, China

2008-3: Community Networks IPv6 Assignment

Speaker: Lea Roberts, ARIN Advisory Council

Intro: PDF

Presentation: PDF
Transcript

John Curran presented an introduction to the proposal. Highlights included:

• Advisory Council shepherds: Lea Roberts and Stacy Hughes
• Introduced on PPML on 11 February 2008, it was transitioned to the new PDP 7 January 2009 and designated as a draft policy on 23 March 2009. It has been discussed at ARIN XXI, ARIN XXII, and the Caribbean Sector meetings in Kingston, Jamaica; Nassau, Bahamas; and Bridgetown, Barbados.
• Presentation of Staff Impact Analysis, Legal Review, Staff Comments, and overview of PPML discussion activity. [see presentation and transcript links above for details]

Lea Roberts, as one of the shepherds, continued with the presentation of the proposal. Lea presented the text of the proposal and then the rationale.

Discussion highlights included:

• Questions about the demand for the policy, can’t the people who want this meet the current requirements
• The policy would spur development and experimentation with IPv6
• That the policy should be Caribbean only
• “Community networks” needs to be more clearly defined

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion, Paul Vixie took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room, and requested that remote participants submit their votes on several questions related to this draft policy. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.

IPv6 IAB/IETF Activities Report

Speaker: Marla Azinger

Presentation: PDF

Transcript

Marla Azinger provided a presentation about activities within the IETF related to IPv6. Marla noted that this presentation is not an official IETF report, as there is no official IETF Liaison to ARIN or any RIR.

Highlights included:

• Updates fro IETF San Francisco
• Working Group reports on: Routing and Addressing, IPv6 Maintenance, v6 Operations, SHIM6, BEHAVE, Softwire, DNS Operations, DNS Extensions, OPSEC, Secure Inter-Domain Routing, Global Routing Operations
• New WG Activity: new group, LISP; proposed group, IPv6 Address Independence
• IETF Stockholm, Sweden, 26-31 July

For discussion details, please see the transcript.

RIR Update - LACNIC

Speaker: Raúl Echeberría, LACNIC CEO

Presentation: PDF

Transcript

Raúl Echeberría provided a presentation about recent activities and developments within LACNIC and its region.
Highlights included:

• New Policy Development Process
• FRIDA update
• Creating a Government Working Group, continuing participation in IGF
• Engineering projects reports on EPP and RPKI
• Providing support and participation for many meetings and education efforts
• LACNIC XII, Panama City, Panama, 24-29 May 2009

Open Microphone

Moderator: Paul Vixie, ARIN Chairman of the Board

Transcript

Highlights included:

• Whether we are getting wide enough participation or if more community outreach is needed to increase the number of participants
• What is the breakdown of size and types of organizations who participate in ARIN meetings
• A suggestion that ARIN develop more resource management software tools for community use

Closing Announcements and Adjournment

Speaker: John Curran, Acting ARIN President and CEO

Transcript

John Curran offered a reminder on the Members Meeting, which would take place the following day, and to which all attendees were invited. He invited anyone who was interested to remain in the room for the Automated Template BoF, which would be beginning immediately. He concluded by thanking all of the meeting attendees for participating and hoped they would return for the Members Meeting tomorrow.

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