ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting Notes - 11 February 2009 [Archived]

Meeting Called to Order

Speaker: Richard Jimmerson, ARIN Chief Information Officer

Transcript

Richard Jimmerson introduced himself and welcomed the attendees to the second day of the meeting.

He explained that the day’s program would begin with the IPv6 Workshop, which would be followed by policy discussions. He directed attendees to the Policy Discussion handout, which provides the full text of the proposals up for discussion.

He explained that the policies would be presented by members of the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) and that the discussions would be moderated by John Curran in the morning and Scott Bradner in the afternoon.

The following policy discussions began after the conclusion of the IPv6 Workshop.

At the beginning of the meeting approximately 23 people were in attendance.

2008-3: Community Networks IPv6 Allocation

Speaker: Paul Andersen, ARIN Advisory Council

Introduction: PDF

Transcript

Paul Andersen presented the draft policy. Highlights included:

• Author: Joshua King
• Advisory Council shepherds: Lea Roberts and Stacy Hughes
• Introduced on PPML on February 2008 and designated as a formal policy on 4 March 2008. It was discussed at ARIN XXI, the May 2008 ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting in Kingston, Jamaica, the September 2008 ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting in Nassau, Bahamas, and at ARIN XXII. It was last revised on 16 September 2008.
• AFRINIC has a similar proposal under discussion.
• Proposal status: Under development by the AC.
• Summary: This proposal would make a /48 or larger IPv6 assignment available to Community Networks.

For additional discussion details, please see the transcript.

At the end of discussion John Curran took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for their consideration.

2008-7: Whois Integrity Policy Proposal

Speaker: Paul Andersen, ARIN Advisory Council

Introduction: PDF

Transcript

Paul Andersen presented the draft policy. Highlights included:

• Author: Heather Schiller
• Advisory Council shepherds: Paul Andersen and Bill Darte
• Introduced on PPML on 18 August 2008, designated as a formal policy on 26 August 2008. It was discussed at the September 2008 ARIN Caribbean Sector Meeting in Nassau, Bahamas, and at ARIN XXII.
• APNIC has adopted a similar policy. No other similar policy is under consideration in the other RIR regions.
• Proposal status: Under development by the AC. It has been merged with three other proposals: WHOIS authentication alternatives, WHOIS POC e-mail cleanup, annual WHOIS POC validation.
• Summary: This proposal would require database records to be covered by an RSA before they can be updated.

For additional discussion details, please see the transcript.

John emphasized that community input is especially important under the new Policy Development Process because the AC can incorporate feedback to the draft policy in real time. At the end of discussion John Curran took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in their considerations.

Policy Proposal 80: IPv4 Recovery Fund

Speaker: Bill Darte, ARIN Advisory Council

Introduction: PDF

Transcript

Bill Darte presented the proposal. Highlights included:

• Originator: Leo Bicknell
• Advisory Council shepherds: Cathy Aronson and Bill Darte
• Introduced on PPML on 21 November 2008, and was revised on 8 January 2009. It was accepted by the AC on 24 January 2009. This will be the first discussion of this proposal at an ARIN meeting.
• No other RIR is considering a similar proposal.
• Proposal status: Under development by the AC
• Summary: This proposal would allow approved requesters to place binding bids for address space. ARIN would use the money from those bids to incentivize the return of unused or unneeded address space.

For additional discussion details, please see the transcript.
At the end of discussion John Curran took a straw poll to determine the sense of the room. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council for use in their considerations.

Open Microphone (Morning Session)

Moderator: Richard Jimmerson, ARIN Chief Information Officer

Transcript

John Curran opened the microphones for comments and questions from the floor. Topics of discussion included:

• Bernadette Lewis of the CTU inquired about the WHOIS Integrity policy proposal, and specifically about when ARIN becomes involved in cases where companies go bankrupt or otherwise defunct. Mr. Curran clarified that ARIN has gone on record that IP address are not property or assets and that they can not be released to creditors. In these cases, ARIN will either transfer the resources or reclaim them depending on circumstances.
• Leslie Nobile provided some data requested the previous day on IPv6 fee waivers for LACNIC and ARIN, and statistics on IPv6 allocations in the Caribbean.

For additional discussion details, please see the transcript.

Advisory Council Activities Reports

Speakers: John Sweeting, ARIN Advisory Council Chair

Transcript

John Sweeting, chair of the ARIN Advisory Council began this presentation by discussing the Advisory Council, its role within ARIN, and some of its recent activities. He invited Richard Jimmerson to come to the microphone and explain the ARIN Meeting Fellowship Program, which he briefly described and invited attendees to apply before the 12 February application deadline. Richard also encouraged attendees to consider running for the ARIN Advisory Council and Board of Trustees and highlighted the benefits of serving in these volunteer positions.

Policy Proposal 81: Depleted IPv4 Reserves

Speaker: Dan Alexander, ARIN Advisory Council

Introduction: PDF

Transcript

Dan Alexander presented the proposal. Highlights included:

• Originator: Dan Alexander
• Advisory Council shepherds: Scott Leibrand and Paul Andersen
• Introduced on PPML on 2 December 2008, and accepted by the AC on 24 January 2009. This will be the first discussion of this proposal at an ARIN meeting.
• APNIC and LACNIC have adopted similar policies, and AFRINIC and RIPE NCC have similar policies under discussion.
• Proposal status: Under development by the AC
• Summary: This proposal would set the maximum prefix size at a /20 when ARIN has less than a /9, and limits requests to once every 6 months.

For additional discussion details, please see the transcript.
At the end of discussion Scott Bradner took a straw poll on a series of questions to determine the sense of the room. After the tally was conducted, Scott stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council.

Policy Proposal 82: Allocation of IPv4 Blocks to Regional Internet Registries (Global)

Speaker: Bill Darte, ARIN Advisory Council

Introduction: PDF

Transcript

Bill Darte presented the proposal. Highlights included:

Originators: Adiel A. Akplogan, Raúl Echeberría, Geoff Huston, MAEMURA Akinori, Axel Pawlik, Ray Plzak, Oscar A. Robles-Garay, Nigel Titley, Paul Wilson

Advisory Council shepherds: Scott Leibrand and Marla Azinger

Introduced on PPML on 13 January 2009, and accepted to the AC’s docket on 24 January 2009. This will be the first discussion of this proposal at an ARIN meeting.

APNIC is considering the same proposal.

Proposal Status: Under development by the AC

Summary: Would require RIRs to return all recovered IPv4 space to the IANA to form a new free pool. When the IANA /8s are gone, then the IANA to RIR allocation policy would change. RIRs could apply for 1/10th of the IANA free pool once every 6 months.[see presentation link above for details]

For additional discussion details, please see the transcript.
At the end of discussion Scott Bradner took a straw poll on a series of questions to determine the sense of the room. After the tally was conducted, John stated that this information would be provided to the Advisory Council.

Open Microphone (Afternoon Session)

Moderator: Scott Bradner, ARIN Board of Trustees

Transcript

Scott Bradner opened the microphones for comments and questions from the floor. Topics of discussion included:

• Kimano Barrow asked how the division of the Caribbean between LACNIC and ARIN was determined. Scott explained that when LACNIC was formed there were discussions about how to split the region, and that these decisions were made within ICANN, and that changes would need to be voted on by the ICANN Board.
• Bernadette Lewis of the CTU thanked ARIN for holding meetings in the region, and stated that she hopes that stakeholders will be mobilized to respond to many of the issues raised by these events.

For additional discussion details, please see the transcript.

ARIN Government Working Group (AGWG)

Presenter: SSA Robert Flaim, Science and Technology Branch, Special Technologies and Applications Office, Federal Bureau of Investigations

Presentation Highlights:

• Explained the purpose of forming a working group with the intent to encourage the various government agencies to become involved in ARIN’s policy development process, including proposing polices that may enhance capabilities in crime-fighting for the safety and security of the Internet

• Provided and update on the interactive forum between ARN and government on 4 February 2009

• Encouraged the Caribbean government agencies to become involved and participate in a similar effort in their region

There is no transcript available for this session.

Closing Announcements and Adjournment

Speaker: Richard Jimmerson, ARIN Chief Information Officer

Transcript

Richard encouraged all attendees to contact ARIN with any future questions or concerns. He asked that attendees complete a brief survey about their meeting experience and told them that he hoped they would participate in the upcoming Public Policy and Members Meeting in San Antonio, Texas, 26-29 April. He thanked everyone for their participation and for making it a successful meeting.

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