Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 20 June 2024

Teleconference

ARIN AC Attendees:

  • Kat Hunter, Chair (KH)
  • Matthew Wilder, Vice Chair (MW)
  • Doug Camin (DC)
  • Matthew Gamble (MG)
  • Gerry George (GG)
  • Elizabeth Goodson (EG)
  • Brian Jones (BJ)
  • Kendrick Knowles (KK)
  • Kaitlyn Pellak (KP)
  • Gus Reese (GR)
  • Leif Sawyer (LS)
  • Daniel Schatte (DS)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela, General Counsel
  • Eddie Diego, Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson, COO
  • Lisa Liedel, Dir., Registration Services
  • Therese Simcox, Sr. E.A./Scribe
  • John Sweeting, CCO

1. Welcome.

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:05 p.m. ET. The Chair welcomed everyone to the call. It was noted that Mr. Knowles would be delayed.

2. Agenda Review.

The Chair called for comments on the agenda. There were no comments.

3. Approval of the Minutes.

(Exhibit A)

It was moved by LS, and seconded by CW, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the 16 May 2024 Minutes, as written.”

The Chair called for comments. There were no comments.

The motion carried with all in favor and no objections.

DC stated that there were no changes to the text. The policy shepherds are waiting to present this policy at ARIN 54 in October.

AW stated that this policy has successfully completed the Policy Development Process (PDP) and it is ready to advance to recommendation for adoption by the ARIN Board of Trustees.

It was moved by AW, and seconded by LS, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council, having completed a successful policy development process for ‘Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2023-5: Clean-up of NRPM Sections 4.3.4, 4.4, 4.10 and 6.10.1,’ recommends it to the ARIN Board of Trustees for adoption.”

(KK joined at this time 4:08 p.m. ET)

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2023-7: Clarification of NRPM Sections 4.5 and 6.11 Multiple Discrete Networks.

CW stated that updated language, per feedback at ARIN 52, was incorporated into the policy and posted this morning to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML). Policy shepherds are monitoring the list for any feedback to incorporate for re-presenting at ARIN 54 in October.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation.

GG stated that the policy shepherds posted to PPML to foster discussion on the options coming out of ARIN 53 regarding whether to abandon this policy, cancel the waitlist completely, or continue working on text and add a clause to include those already on the waitlist. The policy shepherds are monitoring the list for feedback. He noted that opinions are strong on both sides of the issue.

GR stated that there are no updates at this time. The policy shepherds are waiting to present this policy at ARIN 54 in October.

9. Draft Policy ARIN 2024-2: WHOIS Data Requirements Policy for Non-Personal Information.

LS stated that the policy shepherds reviewed the policy in light of feedback received. They changed the text adding proposed language to 2.12, removing the existing information of what should be included in an Org ID, and instead defined the term. He asked the Advisory Council to please review the changes and provide feedback. The policy shepherds will then post them to the PPML.

10. Draft Policy ARIN 2024-4: Internet Exchange Point Definition.

MG stated that based on feedback received, the concern is the word ‘ethernet’ in the policy. The policy shepherds have since removed the word and will repost the text to the PPML.

The Chair explained that updates to policies are sent to Confluence first and subsequently updated to the website. Edits are then sent via email to the community. She stated that during NANOG, she brought this issue up to the exchange point community and many did not know what better term there was to use. MG stated that having no term works best. The Chair agreed stating that it was also well received at NANOG.

11. Draft Policy ARIN 2024-5: Rewrite of NRPM Section 4.4 Micro-Allocation.

DS stated that a lot of feedback has been received and the policy shepherds are reviewing it. DS stated the changes will be sent to the PPML for feedback.

12. Draft Policy ARIN 2024-6: 6.5.1a Definition Update.

KK stated that feedback was recently received this week on the definition update. It spotlighted LIR and ISP definitions in the NRPM, and the policy shepherds need more time to review comments received.

13. ARIN-prop-331: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses.

KP stated that the policy shepherds have worked with the author to edit the language from the last AC meeting. The author did not provide a definition, but referred to other sections of the NRPM. Therefore, the policy shepherds have crafted a definition and believe the proposal is ready to advance.

It was moved by KP, and seconded by BJ, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-331: Addition of definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses’ as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

14. ARIN-prop-335: Restrict the Largest Initial IPv6 Allocation to /20.

EG stated that the policy shepherds have reviewed the proposal. She stated the proposal has a clear problem statement and is in scope.

It was moved by LS, and seconded by GR, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘ARIN-prop-335: Restrict the Largest Initial IPv6 Allocation to /20’ as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for discussion. There were no comments.

The motion carried unanimously, via roll call vote.

The Chair noted that a new proposal was recently received, and policy shepherds are being assigned.

15. ARIN AC Working Group.

  • Policy Experience Report (PER) Working Group Update. AW stated that BJ ran the WG while she was on vacation and thanked him for doing so. The definitions on LIR and ISPs in NRPM were addressed, and we are reaching out to receive input on those changes. She stated that CW is also writing a new draft for the policy that AT was working on.

16. Any Other Business.

The Chair called for any other business items.

  • Changes in Employment and Affiliation. None reported.

  • Ending Terms for AC Members. MW stated if an AC member’s term is ending this year, please consider submitting the questionnaire to re-run. If you do not intend to re-run, please reach out to him.

    The Chair noted the closing date to submit questionnaires is Monday, June 24. She suggested to submit them by Friday, June 21, if possible.

    CW noted that in this term, compared to his last term, the questionnaire was in the format of a webform and now one sends an email instead. He used Google docs as there was no explicit way to submit it, and asked if that was acceptable.

    MW stated that he will take CW’s comment to the NomCom and staff, noting that using a Google doc was a good idea.

    The Chair further suggested that sending the questionnaire the week of NANOG is a challenge due to other commitments and picking a week that does not conflict would be helpful. She suggested possibly being able to submit it one week earlier than currently scheduled. The CCO stated that these comments will be considered.

  • ARIN Fellowship. The Chair stated that the ARIN Fellowship Program for ARIN 54 opened June 17 and closes on July 19 for ARIN Fellowship Mentors. If you are interested in being a Mentor, an email will be forthcoming shortly.

  • NANOG Registration. It was asked if there was a code for registration and there is not. The CCO stated to please register and pay by the early-bird rate on the NANOG website. Reimbursement for registration can be submitted immediately and there is no need to wait for the meeting to complete.

  • Blog Discussion. The CCO discussed a blog regarding ISPs and LIRs in reference to a question from DS who was on the blog. The CCO stated that the term ‘ISP’ is used in Section 4 of the NRPM because it is understood that an ISP provides connectivity to the customers for whom they reassign IPv4 addresses. LIRS may or may not provide network connectivity. ARIN only approves IPv4 addresses for use on operational networks, or for ISPs to provide to customers that they connect to the Internet. If the term ‘ISP’ were changed to ‘LIR’ in Section 4, it could result in a policy change indicating that leasing is an acceptable justification for requesting IPv4 addresses. DC appreciated the CCO’s comments.

17. Adjournment.

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:41 p.m. ET. MG moved to adjourn seconded by BJ. The meeting adjourned with no objections.

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