Meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council - 24 January 2025

Teleconference

Draft Minutes

These minutes are DRAFT. They have been reviewed by the ARIN Advisory Council prior to posting. These minutes will remain draft until they are reviewed and approved by the ARIN Advisory Council at their next regularly scheduled meeting.

ARIN AC Attendees:

  • Kat Hunter, Chair (KH)
  • Matthew Wilder, Vice Chair (MW)
  • Lily Botsyoe (LB) (via Zoom)
  • Doug Camin (DC)
  • Gerry George (GG)
  • Elizabeth Goodson (EG)
  • William Herrin (WH)
  • Brian Jones (BJ)
  • Kendrick Knowles (KK)
  • Kaitlyn Pellak (KP)
  • Gus Reese (GR)
  • Leif Sawyer (LS)
  • Alicia Trotman (AT)
  • Alison Wood (AW)
  • Chris Woodfield (CW)

ARIN Staff:

  • Michael Abejuela, General Counsel
  • Alyssa Arceneaux, Exec. Coordinator/Scribe
  • John Curran, President & CEO
  • Eddie Diego, Policy Analyst
  • Richard Jimmerson, COO
  • Jennifer Lee, Deputy General Counsel
  • Lisa Liedel, Dir., Registration Services
  • John Sweeting, CXO

Observers:

  • Bill Sandiford, Board Chair
  • Tina Morris, Board Vice Chair
  • Ron da Silva, Board Trustee

1. Welcome.

The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:12 p.m. ET. The Chair welcomed the AC to their first meeting of the year and welcomed the observing Board members. A roll call vote was taken, and all were present.

2. Agenda Review.

The Chair reviewed the agenda with the Council and called for any comments. There were none.

3. Approval of the Minutes.

(Exhibit A)

It was moved by CW, and seconded by LS, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council approves the 19 December 2024 Minutes, as written.”

The motion carried with no objections.

4. Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation.

GG stated that there was no update at this time. He noted that he is looking to solicit additional comments from the Council to provide guidance to the community to help with the development of the policy. He will hold the policy until the next members meeting. The Chair asked for comments. There were none.

5. Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1: Definition of Organization ID/Org ID.

GR stated that they presented new language to the community via PPML, and that the language was not well received. In conjunction with the feedback at ARIN 54, and with the information provided by the CXO in the Policy Experience Report (PER), GR stated that he would move to abandon this policy.

It was moved by GR, and seconded by BJ, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council abandons Draft Policy ARIN-2024-1.”

The Chair called for comments. There were none. The Chair asked for a statement of abandonment.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

6. Draft Policy ARIN-2024-5: Rewrite of NRPM Section 4.4 Micro-Allocation.

CW stated that he is considering text updates based on PPML feedback and hopes to get it posted in the next two weeks. There was discussion regarding when he would need to submit a request for a staff and legal review if he wanted to present the policy at the March AC meeting and then at ARIN 55 in April.

7. Draft Policy ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses.

KP stated that she had posted to the PPML on changing the terminology from ‘special purpose’ to ‘defined purpose’, and feedback has been limited. She will reach out to the community again to see if the policy is addressing a problem, and if it is a problem the community feels should continue to be addressed. WH commented it was not a problem with the community, but more specifically a problem for this group, and he was not sure how much the community will have an opinion. He asked how much of the feedback has been about the problem statement and how much it has been about the terminology. KP said it has been more about the terminology.

8. Draft Policy ARIN-2024-10: Registration Requirements and Timing of Requirements with Retirement of Section 4.2.3.7.2.

AT stated that they have met and discussed the policy and its iterations. They posted to PPML for feedback and will continue to try find ways to solicit comments from the community.

9. Draft Policy ARIN-2024-11: IPv4 Transition Efficiency Reallocation Policy (ITERP).

BJ stated that they are looking at ways to target the PPML and get the community to focus on the problem other than the outskirt issues and issues like reallocation. BJ asked, do we want to change Section 4.10 or not? It was noted that this was also brought up in the Policy Experience Report. The Chair called for questions or comments. There were none.

10. Prop-339-Clarify ISP and LIR Definitions and References to Address Ambiguity in NRPM Text.

LS stated that the policy is in scope and given the PER, this policy is clear.

It was moved by LS, and seconded by EG, that:

“The ARIN Advisory Council accepts ‘Prop-339-Clarify ISP and LIR Definitions and References to Address Ambiguity in NRPM Text’ as a Draft Policy.”

The Chair called for discussion. LS added some clarifying text in the docket text in the comment section showing the definitions in the other regions and everything is aligned except for RIPE’s definitions.

The motion carried with all in favor, via roll call vote.

11. ARIN AC Working Group.

The Chair stated that at the beginning of the year, the AC usually determines which working groups are going to be used.

  • Policy Experience Report (PER) Working Group Update. The Chair stated that the Charter has been reevaluated, and the editorial changes were accepted by group. She stated that she would like to adopt the new PER Working Group Charter.

    The new charter was adopted and there were no objections. AW offered her services as Chair for the PER Working Group.

  • Number Resource Policy Manual Working Group (NRPM WG) Update. The Chair stated that the NRPM Working Group is being reinitiated this year. It will include a new function of brainstorming and assisting with shepherd policies that are at an impasse. The NRPM WG Charter was reviewed and adopted with no objections. BJ offered his services as Chair for the NRPM working group.

An email will be forthcoming from the WG Chairs with meeting times, and the new WGs will be formed with at least three additional members.

12. Any Other Business.

The Chair called for any other business items.

  • Changes in Employment and Affiliation. The Chair asked if there were any changes in employment and affiliation since December. LS stated that he will be termed out of the NANOG Elections Committee in April.

  • 2025 U.S. Juneteenth Holiday. The U.S. federal holiday, Juneteenth, falls on Thursday, 19 June, which is a regularly scheduled AC meeting date.

    Per the AC Standing Rules, the Council may agree to change the date of a scheduled meeting with simple majority acceptance. If so, a vote is needed to change the scheduled meeting to the proposed meeting date of Thursday, 26 June.

    It was moved by LS, and seconded by DC, that:

    “The ARIN Advisory Council cancels their regularly scheduled meeting on Thursday, June 19, 2025, in consideration of the U.S. Juneteenth holiday, and agrees to meet on Thursday, June 26, 2025.”

    The Chair called for any comments.

    The motion carried via acclamation.

  • ARIN Volunteer Code of Conduct. Counsel stated that the Board is close to finalizing a Volunteer Code of Conduct. The new version would apply to all volunteer bodies with a few new provisions. One specific item that the Board is working on is to reference ARIN’s Employee Handbook policies that are applicable to ARIN’s volunteers. Once that is formalized, ARIN staff will reach out to the volunteers to sign this code of conduct. He explained that this allows for enforcement measures as a tool specifically for the Chair and Vice Chair. Counsel stated to please reach out to him or the Policy Analyst with any questions.

  • ARIN 55: Charlotte, NC (April 27 – 30, 2025).

    • Registration opened on January 21.
    • Dates of stay are needed by March 21.


    (As the meeting gets closer, more meeting information will be found via the arin-announce mailing list and on this page: https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/upcoming)

13. Adjournment.

The Chair entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:38 p.m. ET. DC moved to adjourn, seconded by AT. The meeting adjourned with no objections.